Pastor Hagee, Hitler, and Israel

Further details emerge; this time, audio of a sermon from the 1990s:

Going in and out of biblical verse, Hagee preached: “‘And they the hunters should hunt them,’ that will be the Jews. ‘From every mountain and from every hill and from out of the holes of the rocks.’ If that doesn’t describe what Hitler did in the holocaust you can’t see that.” …

“God sent a hunter. A hunter is someone with a gun and he forces you. Hitler was a hunter. And the Bible says — Jeremiah writing — ‘They shall hunt them from every mountain and from every hill and from the holes of the rocks,’ meaning there’s no place to hide. And that might be offensive to some people but don’t let your heart be offended. I didn’t write it, Jeremiah wrote it. It was the truth and it is the truth. How did it happen? Because God allowed it to happen. Why did it happen? Because God said my top priority for the Jewish people is to get them to come back to the land of Israel.”

For the record, I don’t blame John McCain for not knowing this about Pastor Hagee. McCain is not a theologian, and I’m sure it was an honest mistake when he spoke of Hagee as being a strong supporter of Israel.

But the Hagee story does illustrate an important point. White Christian preachers are innocent until proven guilty, whereas black preachers — and certainly preachers who are both black and Muslim — don’t get the benefit of the doubt. They have to turn somersaults to prove their innocence.

Similarly, Obama is viewed with greater suspicion than McCain. Yes, I know Obama’s relationship with Rev. Wright was much more significant than McCain’s relationship with Pastor Hagee. But still … Obama himself is no radical, yet he is expected to answer for every offensive thing that anyone associated with him says.

There’s a double standard at work here. It’s probably unfair to characterize the dynamic as racist; but “xenophobic” is surely justified. Obama is suspiciously other, and therefore has to pass tests to prove to sceptics that he’s a full-blooded American.

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p.s. McCain has had enough.

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4 Comments (+add yours?)

  1. Hans
    May 22, 2008 @ 21:06:07

    Not to be rash, but I think your comment “I’m sure it was an honest mistake when he[McCain] spoke of Hagee as being a strong supporter of Israel,” is a bit nieve.

    This is of course not your fault, but rather that of the Main Stream Media, MSM, who for their part & defense have kept this low on the radar while the Democratic Primaries raged on. Now that the Democractic Nomination is all but behind us, you will find the MSM will bring more and more of these stories, such as McCain’s connection to the Savings & Loans fiasco of the 80s to the forefront and begin to shine a spotlight on McCain’s past.

    And more importantly, it is not as though the MSM does not know about all the baggage McBush carries around, you will start to see more of this come to the light of day.

    I do have to say,
    John McCain changed his views on hating Jews & Catholics today, but in the same moment, he said he “Hates the Brave Troops”
    and of course still loves the Lobbyists.

    Keep your eyes open, the smorgasborg of McCain’s past will start to be laid out and this is all you can eat buffet. 🙂

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  2. Random
    May 25, 2008 @ 12:30:49

    Part of me wanted to say something along the lines that he’s trying to say something a tad more nuanced than Hitler was doing God’s work, but most of me is saying – screw it, if he doesn’t realise that you simply don’t talk about Hitler this way then he’s simply too stupid to pay attention to. Good catch Stephen – I hope this jerk’s 15 minutes of fame are over now.

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  3. Stephen
    May 25, 2008 @ 18:07:22

    Hans:
    I used to pastor a church, and I spent fifteen years or so immersed in the evangelical community. It taught me not to overestimate how much theology people understand — even people who go to church on a weekly basis.

    McCain doesn’t strike me as particularly devout. He pays lip service to Christianity, as every American politician must. But I doubt he had any meaningful understanding of the narrow sliver of premillenial fundamentalism represented by Pastor Hagee.

    On the other hand, McCain knew that Hagee had blamed Hurricane Katrina on the sins of the residents of New Orleans. At that point he responded by dismissing Hagee’s claim as “nonsense, nonsense, nonsense” with several more “nonsense”s thrown in for good measure. But he didn’t reject Hagee’s endorsement until now.

    McCain also made an excuse for Hagee’s smear of Roman Catholics at one point, saying he presumed that Hagee had been quoted out of context. So McCain gave Hagee the benefit of the doubt when he should have known better.

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  4. Hans
    May 25, 2008 @ 20:04:09

    Stephen,
    I can come across as “harsh” at times, and often I post things in a “I told you so” or “I can’t believe you can be a ‘good person’ yet still think this” so I will insult you back. hope that makes sense some.

    I don’t “hate” people of “faith” as a general principle as I would prefer to give them a fair chance until they prove my “general beliefs” about them. What gets me up in arms is when people of faith interject themselves into the state/government & politics. I maintain both need to remain separated to ensure the sanctity & viability of the other and themselves.

    anyways, as you are thinking on these lines anyways can you check out my thread on this and comment, as i’ve tried to maintain some objectivity by laying out the events as they happened, but I do know i hold favor for Obama based on policy. I even thought Huckabee would be good based on his “economic reform” of Arkansas, and even forgot the reality that hid behind as seen last week at NRA.

    Timeline of Endorsement Gate

    thanks!

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